Anarchs visiting

''The Camarilla domain is powerful, but recently a group of Anarchs have taken up residence and started a barony nearby. Now they want to visit the Camarilla domain regularly for primarily social and/or personal reasons. (In other words, not necessary reasons such as discussing fighting a mutual enemy.) Should they be allowed to do so?''

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** Maryam

Maryam's reaction is that Anarchs are not welcome at Camarilla gatherings. We permit them to exist. That is enough. If Tower members really want to associate with those sorts, they can do it on their own terms, but we don't need them polluting our gatherings.

** William Leander

They're a resource to be exploited -at best the enemy of my enemy and at worst grist for the mill. Social gatherings of the Ivory Tower will remind them of their true place in Camarilla society and make them more receptive to the kind word from a subtle manipulator.

** Antonio."Tony" Korinthos

Let them come. More Kindred means more mistakes; more mistakes means more business for me.

** Charles Yea

Yea is firmly opposed to their presence at Camarilla events, but very happily organizes other events for them as an act of charity. One doesn't invite the a crew of sea dogs to London for the Season, but one does have an obligation to see that they are entertained on holidays.

Beyond that he views business with Anarchs(or IA for that matter) as the type of thing he ought spare his elders from dealing with, at least directly. That's what a Steward or Purser is for.

** Kieran Thomas

Provided that they obey the Traditions as well as any caveats set forth by the Prince of the city. Yes.

** Galanan Deireanach

Anarchs are a tool, as is just about every other Kindred not of our House, our Blood and our age. Would I speak of them or to them in public? Not unless I must, but they do have their uses.

** Phillipe Rousseau (Anarch)

Phillipe would have no problem with hosting members of the Ivory Tower with an Anarch territory, as he will often mingle with members of the Camarilla, and can often times be confused for a member of the Tower until doing the necessary cursory review to understand that he isn't a Tower Loyal Ventrue. Recognizing that there is a time and a place for everything, however, he is likely to be upfront with Tower members should they decide to "party crash" an Anarch Only event, or be determined to poke their nose into Anarch matters when Phillipe's Brothers/Sisters are talking about internal matters at a social event.

Would he be rude to said Tower members? Not at all. Civility is to be present in all matters between two factions. But, Phillipe would ensure that even in civility, the visiting Camarilla members were reminded who the host of the event was and the boundaries that should be observed by a visitor.

** Galanan Deireanach

Anarchs are a nuisance, nothing more. Petulant children still throwing their temper tantrum, but coming to the table when they need something. As long as they behave and do not disrupt. As long as they follow our laws and Traditions, I do not care if they come to gatherings.

** Gunnvaldr Graysson

Boons are the great leveler: Allowing the Anarchs to attend these gatherings would encourage free trade in boons amongst the Anarchs and the Camarilla. As long as the Anarchs behave themselves, I see no issue in this: In fact, there is always the possibility that these Anarchs might change their ways and join with the Ivory Tower after all.

** Seamus O'Reilly (Anarch)

Strange times, strange bed fellows right? The Rules of Civil Conduct apply. If you show up without your face, in a meat suit, or otherwise not yourself you will be turned away and barred from further access. It doesn't set a good tone of trust if you show up as anyone or anything other than yourself, otherwise a simple email would suffice. I would extend the same courtesy as would be extended to myself and expect the same rules of courtesy to be followed of course. If I had any personal, sect, or otherwise private business I can see to it in private or at another location, I don't see a reason to turn guests away unless given one, it would make us poor hosts.

** Phillipe Marchand

This is a very reasonably possibility given the setup of the local game. He would keep open communication with the Anarchs through intermediaries. In hopes of bringing them into the fold.

** Atreus

Treat them with courtesy, watch them, use them if you can. As I've said before, Anarchs are wayward children; allow them to burn their fire out and they will return to the fold soon enough.

** Arnvald Torstein

Early on He would have stated that they were not allowed at all. The left us and started their own organization. We allowed them to exist as long as they did not get in the way or cause too much trouble. The too fought the Sabbat so let them fight.

Through the years He would have had to deal with them in situations from time to time OFF Camarilla territory and would have done what He had to. But still they have they place and we have ours.

In modern times we may want to allow them to "visit" but He would want to keep them in the back of the house, using the service entrance and no having a voice at all unless spoken to or addressed. During Gathers and more importantly during the Address of the Prince they would either be kept quiet or kept out. They have no need to be a part of or speak on topics of Cam Politics.

** Catherine Foxley (aka Katrijn DeVos)

Anarchs are troublesome, but potentially profitable and useful. They should only be allowed to visit only under the agreement that it's the Tower's dominion they visit, and to abide by the laws and customs thereof. If they cause trouble, then only their leaders should be allowed to visit. I allow dogs in my home, but I don't consider them part of my family, and if they turn rabid, they will b

** Gareth Day

Absolutely. As long as they do not sew sedition, meddle in Camarilla affairs or start fights, this is a terrific opportunity to build relations with local Anarchs. Be useful to them and find out how they can be useful to you. Better an ally than an enemy. Events specific to Camarilla should stay exclusively Camarilla-attended, such as court, however, Elysium and joint events can be used to build alliances.